"oh shit, he gets props too"
The answer from yesterday's question was the Chocolate Boy Wonder Peter Phillips aka Pete Rock. My man answered Skeff Anslem which is not what I was lookign for but could be right. My man, if you have some info to share with the SC please do.
I got that info from the marketing push from Loud for Soul Survivor back in 1990 whatever. Where is Chris Lamonica?
Remember the adlib 'Pete Rock for the beat you don't stop'
And on Sunday while you were watching the story of a murderous, racist Italian from New Jersey I was keeping it real watching the story of a struggling Black family from the Projects. Then after the rerun of 'Good Times' I peeped the Sebastin Telfair documentary "Through The Fire."
Outstanding! Go peep it. I have mad respect for that cat and his family. From Moms to his 2 older brothers to his little man.
I can't front I caught a tear at the end. Whatever, I am a softie.
Later, gotta fill out my bracket before the Hampton game
posted by Wes at 4:23 PM
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yo, this was another deceptively complicated trivia question -- tribe song, classic album, should have been pretty cut and dry. but upon further investigating, i'm gonna have to ask for some more clarification. i am right now looking at my ORIGINAL CASETE TAPE copy of the low end theory, in which there is NO MENTION of the chocolate boy wonder's production to be found. In fact, on the particular song in question (jazz...) the credits read like so ( j. davis, a. muhammad, m. taylor), suggesting that it was produced in house ("produced and arranged by the four man crew...").
Now, yesterday, when i read the question, dude had already answered SKEFF ANSELM, which i believed to be correct (just off the dome) 'cause of the skeff reference in phife's verse. I didn't bother checking the tape.
SOOOO i'm wondering wes, if you are basing your answer upon that line "pete rock for the beat..." or if that vinyl you've posted actually credits mr. phillips as the producer. 'Cause if you remember, tip also shouts out extra P, along with the JB's, De La, and his brand new benz (among other things)... as i've always listened to the song, i'd assume he's referencing pete for the beat; as in the eternal beat, pete's collective contribution to hip-hop, i.e. "thanks for all the good times"
Of course i could be completely off. What does that label say?
March 15, 2006 11:49 AM
I am basing my answer on Pete Rock's extended discography that was part of the marketing of Soul Survivor. So while you are pouring through your dusty little tapes look for the promo cassette on that album.
Skeff was more of an engineer and 'producer' in the true sens of the word. Not a beatmaker or composer. He engineered a lot of old records and 'Universal Magnetic' if memory serves.
And if Skeff did do 'Jazz' your own research shows that ATCQ did not credit him or Pete. Is the Large Pro credited on 'Keep It Rollin'?
Until Jay Dee raised a little fuss they rarely credited other creative forces. It was either ATCW or later The Ummah as a collective. I also heard that Afrika had a lot to do with People's Instinctive. And peep the minimal credit for the JB's on that album
March 15, 2006 12:47 PM
i wasn't claiming that skeff did jazz. i said i thought dudes answer was correct when i read it on your blog, before i consulted my meager archives.
that was the whole reason i commented. i was curious wether or not pete was actually credited on the vinyl.
i realize dudes regularly didn't get credited for beats, and anyone who's ever read an interview with pete rock could probably rattle off about 10 classics pete allegedly was uncredited for shaping.
I also wonder what was tribe's motivation for this habit... was it to keep things mysterious? was it ego-tripping? did they not see the importance? was it some legal issue?
March 15, 2006 1:12 PM
yeah, the Skeff answer was the booby trap. I like talking about him because he is one of those unsung heroes. I only know about him because he was from the Bronx and my brother used to tell me about him before Tribe and all that. I think he ised to run with Jazzy Jay amd Bam and all them
Why no credits? who knows? I do hear that TIp wasn't the nicest guy so it could have been ego. Maybe back then they didn't worry about nerds like us checking credits. Pete just wanted his check. Back then Pete must have been only like 19-20 years old
March 15, 2006 1:23 PM
As far as I remember, and excuse me if im wrong ...
According to Pete Rock in Wax Poetis #7 (cant find the damn thang right now to quote) Q-Tip did the actual final beat on the record, the idea is from Pete Rock though, hence the shout in the song, Q-Tip basically snatched the idea after he heard the raw beat Pete had running in the machine and ran with it but gives props where he should've given writing credits and better bring Pete to the session
I heard Phife's line as like, Skeff gets props for contributing production as the only other besides the 3 man crew on the "Low End Theory" album, all other features were vocals, he did production on "everything is fair" and "show business"
my 2 cents...
congrats on the 10, stay up
peace
demian (from over the big pond)
ps: since on subject, check out how tip stopped ali from being a rapper from L.O.T. on
http://halftimeonline.com/hip-hop-icon-series/ali-shaheed-muhammed-a-tribe-called-quest/
March 19, 2006 1:15 PM
thanks for the info.
is this type of insightful, informed Hip Hop fans who read the SCR?
Well halleleujah!If you are gonna be on this side of the pond on June 24th you fot two tix for the Festival to see the Big Daddy Kane
March 19, 2006 2:30 PM
thanks, but i dont 'deserve' to be there , i spelled initials of "Low End Theory" wrong.-)
back to school...
d
March 19, 2006 3:19 PM
lol.
no worries. no points off for mispellings and typos
March 19, 2006 3:21 PM
i found a transcipt of the interview with pete rock
http://peterock.tribe.net/thread/032f66d2-a223-400c-a902-fe166be14676
March 19, 2006 3:34 PM
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