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Friday, June 29, 2007

Daddy don't you know...


...things go in cycles

I think I have written about this before but it occurred to me again today about the wonderful cyclical nature of Hip-Hop. I like to romanticize the past as much as anyone but remember:

- The Scream Tour is the New Edition Tour
- just as many people hated EPMD as hate Young Joc
- my dad hated RUN DMC because they called people 'Sucker MC's'
- Just as it seems anyone from Atlanta and the South can fart and make a hit record it was the same way after NWA. Everyone was from Compton and South Central after "F*ck Da Police"
- Slick Rick rocked more gold than R. Kelly has ice on the 'Double Up' cover
- My man Giggy used to tell me how Cold Crush was the real shit just as I tell young'uns KRS is the best ever
- Remember when KRS said 'we'll be the old school artists'
- LL vs Moe Dee is Jay vs Wayne (generation wise)
- 'Chicken Noodle Soup' is 'Pee Wee's Dance'
- Lil Mama is Antoinette
- El Michels Affair is The Brand New Heavies
- Dave Chapelle is Eddie Murphy
- Stones Throw is Cold Chillin'
- the iPod is the Walkman
- New Era is Kangol
- Nike is still Nike, however

and the list goes on...

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7 Comments:

Anonymous Stephanie Elder said...

I was just thinking the other day about how all of these people complaining about hip hop songs and accompanying dances, don't know much about hip hop history. Pee Wee's Dance of course sticks out, but all of the dances below, had a song to go with them:

The Biz Mark
The Wop
The James Brown

The Beastie Boys' also shouted out "the Jerry Lewis" in Hold It Now, Hit It", and I'm sure there are others I missed.

June 29, 2007 1:14 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very interesting observations...

June 29, 2007 2:23 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the steve martin
the george jefferson (no song attached though)
The Ed Lover dance

June 29, 2007 2:28 PM

 
Blogger Swifty said...

and what I am trying to do with the Festival ain't nothing but a Jam fromm 99 park in the Bronx back in the day

June 29, 2007 2:33 PM

 
Blogger Jason Kirk said...

best rap post i've read in a while. hip-hop isn't dead, it just has selective memory.

June 30, 2007 2:19 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

- just as many people hated EPMD as hate Young Joc

I have never met anyone that has hated EPMD, it's sad that yoou would hate on pioneers and rap vets, Young Joc is just wack

- Just as it seems anyone from Atlanta and the South can fart and make a hit record it was the same way after NWA. Everyone was from Compton and South Central after "F*ck Da Police"

Yes, but a lot of those records still stand up today, I can't honestly see, kids in 20 years diggin for Laffy Taffy or Lil Jon records in 20 years.
- Slick Rick rocked more gold than R. Kelly has ice on the 'Double Up' cover

Yes, but the difference is, NOT everyone was doing it and it was only cats like Rakim, Slick Rick and it wasn't ridiculous amounts of 'bling' that seems to be just a hey look at what I have got and you don't.


- LL vs Moe Dee is Jay vs Wayne (generation wise)

NO...LL and Moe Dee had rhymes, Jay has rhymes but rhymes to much about materialistic b.s.

Lil Wayne is a drugged out joke.
- 'Chicken Noodle Soup' is 'Pee Wee's Dance'

- Lil Mama is Antoinette

NO Lil Mama is a "brand", Antionette has rhyme skills and was the real deal.
- El Michels Affair is The Brand New Heavies

Yes

- Dave Chapelle is Eddie Murphy

Yes, but Dave is funnier and won't sell out like Eddie did.

- Stones Throw is Cold Chillin'

NO...Stones Throw are an eclectic label, Cold Chillin was just rap

- the iPod is the Walkman

Yes, but what is sad is that some of these ipod kids don't even know what tapes are or have ever used them

have a read of the latest post at

www.coldrockdaspot.blogspot.com

The poster Jaz talks about that.

Good observations

peace

July 04, 2007 2:47 AM

 
Blogger Swifty said...

first of all I think you misunderstood the spirit of the post.

And as for me dissing EPMD you are really off message. 1) I didn't insult EPMD I was merely making a point that at some point even a legendary group is hated on. 2) If you are an EPMD fan you will see this is a staement of fact, not opinion. And I didn't say it Parrish did...

"People round town talkin this and that
Of how we sound like the r, and our music was wack
Dropped the album strictly business and you thought we was bold
Thirty days later, the lp went gold
So what you sayin"

Nothing cryptic there. Just talking about how people said they were wack when they first dropped.

and if you think Biz Markie is not as eclectic as Madlib I think you need to spend some time with your iPod. The point was that Stones Throw is an indie label with significant relative market share same as Cold Chillin


Only Slick Rick rocking gold? do a google image search for RUN DMC and the aformentioned EPMD. And it wasn't look at whay I got? EPMD I'm Mad':

Now I ride the Benz, you ride the dick, with your punk friends,
straight up pussy from Punk City, my attitude's fucked up and real shitty... When it's time, flex the Benz,
around town, windows down at the South Town, Cool J tape or K-Solo Spellbound
With fly girlies dippin, brothers grippin' and sippin'
Old Gold, Red Bull, hands on my dick and
I'm just lampin' with my EK shades, truck-jewels, obviously the man's paid.
But of course not, brother can't get his props
like for instance, when I cruise up the block
in my 560 lampin' on my Metro phone, chrome kit beamin' all off your dome.
But like a sucka, yeah, you looked the other way
That's how I knew you're on my dick kid, but it's okay.
It's normal, relax, your whole head's busted.
Caught in the rap skit, ya couldn't be trusted.
Cuz my sounds pound from here to Okinowi...{kiss} peace and I'm ouuuutie!

July 04, 2007 10:14 AM

 

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